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Jimmy Carr Goves to Jersey for Falklands Smackdown!
Posted in Falkland Islands News by Discovery Falklands on January 27th, 2013
I look at some of the news stories interesting me this week, including Jimmy Carr’s tax dodge, Education Secretary Michael Gove being a dumbass and PM DaveC being both awesome and crap. More information on the Falklands and the British Claim can be read here – www.falklands.info For balance, here is some info on the Argentinian Claim: www.bbc.co.uk
Video Rating: 4 / 5
January 27th, 2013 at 7:43 am
“When the British invaded in 1833, they expelled the whole local community”
Good greif – it is amazing that Argentinians still spout this propaganda when all the evidence to prove that it is nothing but lies is so easily found on the Internet.
Vernet left the Falklands voluntarily in 1831. His settlement was attacked by the US, not The British, because he seized 3 US ships., but the settlers were never expelled.
Try reading some genuine history, instead of Argentinian propaganda pamphlets.
January 27th, 2013 at 8:11 am
The only reason the UK is still holding those Southern islands is because it threatens other nations with weapons, and in the process it spreads the notion that weapons are good. Instead of de-militarising the World, it is pushing other nations to more militarisation, which of course benefits the UK’s arms industry. I wouldn’t be surprised if some of the current Malvinas inhabitants have financial interests in the industry. This is pushing other nations into the pursuit of the ultimate weapon.
January 27th, 2013 at 8:54 am
When the British invaded in 1833, they expelled the whole local community, and replaced them with their own settlers, so obviously the islander you know cannot trace ancestry to those islands to before 1833. If you want to know the stories of the descendants of those people who were expelled in 1833, you need to go to Argentina, where they are living now. Mr Vernet is one of the most known descendants of those people.
January 27th, 2013 at 9:36 am
I can assure you that we do not claim a third of the world. Any nation that was colonised that wished to breakaway have done so. This is not about colonialism at all. I work with a Falklander and his family go back 7 generations on the island to 1812. Whilst I will agree that is no where near 1690, it is most definately before 1833. Some reading for you, if you are interested is being put in the video description.
January 27th, 2013 at 10:29 am
We all know what the British claims are about, a third of the whole World. Those islands are part of that claim, that’s called the British empire, and the whole World has moved on, the empire business is now something to be ashamed of, and rectified. The current settlers have not appeared in those islands before 1833, definitely after that.
January 27th, 2013 at 10:59 am
Ah the British Claim goes back to 1690, the first generation of the current settlers recorded in circa 1770. Its funny how things that happened long before we were born can have such an effect even now.
As I said in my video, I believe that it is up to the Islanders to decide who they want to be. If in the upcoming referendum they voted to be Argentinian, then I believe that is their right. Same goes for British.
January 27th, 2013 at 11:25 am
If that argument holds any weight, the UK lost the high ground before Argentina ever did, when they themselves invaded those islands in 1833. Argentina became independent in 1816, and the current population of those South Atlantic islands appeared after that event, and definitely after 1833, which event is older?
January 27th, 2013 at 11:54 am
I agree on that point, but then I believe the question of proximity is superseded by longevity. The Islanders have been present on the Falklands beofre Argentina as a nation even existed. It is messy. But as far as I am concerned the Argentinians lost the high ground the minute the invaded in the 80′s.
January 27th, 2013 at 12:31 pm
The self determination principle is an interesting one. Did you know that there is a man made island in the English Channel called Sealand, which used the principle of self determination to susceed from the UK?
January 27th, 2013 at 1:22 pm
The current populations of the South Atlantic islands are caught in a dispute of sovereignty, but that’s their choice as well, for they know those islands are disputed territory. In any sovereignty dispute, the principle of territorial integrity, or if you prefer, the “proximity” argument, is well regulated by international law. and comes before the principle of of self-determination, however misinterpreted it may be.
January 27th, 2013 at 2:03 pm
That’s the self-defeating interpretation of the concept of self-determination, which is maliciously being used by the UK government. If any population can claim that principle, anywhere in the World is fair game, and populations inside the UK will be able to use that argument to declare their own self-determination. No ifs no buts. Pakistani communities feeling allegiance to Pakistan will be able to claim their territorial enclave in the UK and their desire to be under Pakistani sovereignty.
January 27th, 2013 at 2:43 pm
Well the proximity doesn’t quite stack up on that one, but it would be like Pakistan claiming Afghanistan. To be honest the Argentinian argument is so transparent, all they are after is the oil… and so are we. And the poor islanders just get caught in the middle.
January 27th, 2013 at 3:36 pm
Good, then we all know that vast areas of the UK will one day belong to Pakistan, and you’ll have no arguments to counter that.
January 27th, 2013 at 4:29 pm
You welcome, please share in the ways you normally share if you think your peers will like!
January 27th, 2013 at 5:27 pm
trout face
January 27th, 2013 at 6:14 pm
hello major!
January 27th, 2013 at 6:27 pm
Calls it as I sees it!